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2002 Honda CRV - No Shut Off

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:39 am
by Tim Martin
Customer stopped in with his 2002 Honda CRV that with the key out of the ignition switch and the battery cables unhooked the engine does not shut off. Yes, the vehicle can be driven that way - no key in the ignition switch and the battery cables unhooked. I kid you not. The only way to shut the engine off is to remove the 50 amp ignition fuse from the underhood fuse box. Strange. Very strange. Where do I start? What am I looking for?

Re: 02 Honda CRV No Shut Off

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:15 pm
by ricmorin
Is it equipped with a remote starter? That would be my first question.

Re: 02 Honda CRV No Shut Off

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:26 pm
by Tim Martin
ricmorin wrote:Is it equipped with a remote starter? That would be my first question.
Hadn't thought of including that info in the original post but no, it does not have a remote starter.

Re: 2002 Honda CRV - No Shut Off

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:57 pm
by Pauls Automotive
I would start at the ignition switch. I've had that issue before but it was years ago. I can't remember the problem. It just seems to me something has got to be powering up all the systems. Maybe look into the fuse box itself.

Re: 2002 Honda CRV - No Shut Off

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:18 pm
by Bimish
I would start by disconnecting the ignition switch and see if this turn the engine off. I see allot of problem with early 2000 honda's, most of the time is lack of key on power when you turn the key back from the crank position. Good luck

Re: 2002 Honda CRV - No Shut Off

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:00 am
by steven kiser
along with unplugging switch, it is probably the issue, but look at the plug on the switch and see if it's melted, and a stuck run relay will cause this. May have an issue inside the fuse box as well. Let us know if the switch doesn't solve it.

Re: 2002 Honda CRV - No Shut Off

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:08 am
by Tim Martin
For myself, I am still puzzled as to how this vehicle can run and drive with the key our of the ignition switch and both battery cables unhooked from the battery. Is the alternator capable of generating the current on its own without a battery? I am inclined to agree, that after looking at wiring diagrams that the ignition switch could be the culprit. I also saw where Honda issues a recall/tsb on these vehicles for possible metal contamination in the ignition switch that would cause the shifter interlock to malfunction.

Just trying to understand the situation.

Re: 2002 Honda CRV - No Shut Off

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:02 am
by Tim Martin
Ok. I put my scan tool on this thing an went for a drive this morning. I hadnt gotten out of the shop and the "Check Engine" light came on. Codes P1166 and P1167 showed up. These codes relate to the heater circuit of the front air/fuel sensor. Might there be any connection between these codes and the not shutting off problem. Now, when I got back to the shop, the engine shut off with no issues. I'm puzzled.

Re: 2002 Honda CRV - No Shut Off

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:41 am
by steven kiser
just for kicks with the vehicle running and blower motor on high wiggle key a bit and see if the blower shuts down. This is something I do to test for a bad switch. If the switch screws onto the back of the cylinder make sure it's secure.

Re: 2002 Honda CRV - No Shut Off

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:51 am
by jbadenoch
ive seen this before where the contacts in the ign switch break and stick together. Ign switch fixed it. After repair, you may want to check the charging system to make sure it has not fried the alt from disconnecting the circuit, seen that before too. Good luck