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I have a customer who has a 2003 f150 with the Triton in it and has the 9/16" spark plugs. I was wondering does anyone know of a trick to get these things out without breaking any plugs. I heard running AC Delco X16???? carbon cleaner through it is supposed to help.

This is a thread all about it, several good ideas that work for different people....
http://www.managerforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=5142

its a 50/50 shot. If they break you need a special tool to remove them

basically what i do is loosen the plug and if it fights me i'll pour warm wd40 into the port and wait it out. believe it or not i've had better luck with a 3/8 impact gun at low pressure than a ratchet.

steven kiser wrote:basically what i do is loosen the plug and if it fights me i'll pour warm wd40 into the port and wait it out. believe it or not i've had better luck with a 3/8 impact gun at low pressure than a ratchet.

I have poured bg 44k around the tough ones but only if I have the luxury of keeping it overnoght. SO very rarely.

steven kiser wrote:basically what i do is loosen the plug and if it fights me i'll pour warm wd40 into the port and wait it out. believe it or not i've had better luck with a 3/8 impact gun at low pressure than a ratchet.

I believe! Caliper bolts on the old Fords I would break a socket with a ratchet but not an impact.

wbuxton wrote:

steven kiser wrote:basically what i do is loosen the plug and if it fights me i'll pour warm wd40 into the port and wait it out. believe it or not i've had better luck with a 3/8 impact gun at low pressure than a ratchet.

I believe! Caliper bolts on the old Fords I would break a socket with a ratchet but not an impact.

with the air tool the bolt/plug is being torqued straight on. Using a socket & ratchet almost always has torque applied at a slight angle.

Well the guy finally broke down and brought me the truck. Took about 6 hours to do. I bought the Lisle 65600 kit for removing the broken plugs and it worked great. The only thing I will do before I do another is tell them I need it a day in advance and do a carbon cleaning with some delco x16? I think it is. But all around it went good, will gladly do another for a whatever time it takes charge. No set time here!! Patience is required on these. Thanks guys!

now that the initial fear of a "first" is gone the second time will be a lot easier. thanks for posting the results.

Has anyone been using any antiseize on the bottom of these plugs to help keep the carbon from sticking to the plug? Last couple I have been just installing the new plug, but always looking for better solution to these pos's.

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use nothing. if you feel the need to do anything clean the bore with a round brass brush and carbon cleaner. anti seize will do nothing but inter fear with the plug ground and solidify around the plug reach and that's all folks. I've never seen it happen but i have seen anti seize that's been exposed to high heat and it's like solid Aluminum.

Like I said I haven't, I was just seeing if there was a better answer to these things. Don't change what I have been doing!

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use nothing. if you feel the need to do anything clean the bore with a round brass brush and carbon cleaner. anti seize will do nothing but inter fear with the plug ground and solidify around the plug reach and that's all folks. I've never seen it happen but i have seen anti seize that's been exposed to high heat and it's like solid Aluminum.

Same here after I saw first hand what happens to antiseize after it is subjected to all that heat for a long time. We do not use antiseize on any spark plugs but I tend to think that if the spark plugs are going into a cast iron head that may be ok but not when it is going into aluminum. No way.

Let's not forget the fact that it will insulate from ground and cause weak spark.

Steve, I didn't mean on the threads, I know not to do that, I meant on the lower part of these plugs. I didn't, I haven't and I won't start, I was just checking to see if there was a better solution on these. This truck has 75k on it and they all came out hard, and the customer has been running schaffers fuel treatment in it. I know just a bad design! Thanks!